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My opinions. And jolly good ones. Your mileage will vary. :-)
My opinions. And jolly good ones. Your mileage will vary. :-)
--[[User:Waynemcdougall|Waynemcdougall]] 09:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
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I agree with you concerning the contextual changes although in the language sections you are still confronted with a lot of english because the links are only copied over.
I do not agree with the layout changes.
We already learned how a wiki page is organized and how the layout works.
There are a lot of wikis on the web and they all are, more or less, looking the same.
So we get used to it.
On the main page the complete english information should be available (maybe within sections and subpages) and then there should be links to language pages where the specific or translated information could be found.
So moving language specific links to a dedicated subpage would make it more easy to keep track of and you can see what already had been translated.
Some suggestions from the w3c on the use of [http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#tables tables] for markup languages (here HTML).
And some guidance from mediawiki concerning [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables tables].
Maybe major changes to the wiki should be discussed first befor valuable work is invested.
IMHO -- [[User:Morlano|morlano]] 14:03, 18 September 2010 (CET)

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Hm I´m not sure if the latest changes do realy improve the usability. What was wrong about the old layout without a table. What sense do the colors make? Is there a code which I do not understand? Sorry, but now it looks a little bit confused. morlano



Glad to have a discussion on it. Open to changes. The colours don't mean a lot. Green for getting going. Red for problems. Otherwise just making it more attractive.

I cannot believe that you think http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=4101 was more usable. But if you can get two other people to agree I'll gladly back off. Can you really find two people not related to you who think it looks confused and worse than the old version? Really?

Objectives: The first two things you see are how to get started with Waze , hitting all the problem areas at once, and that Waze supports different languages. So you can immediately jump your your country/language, without being put off by a swathe of English.

Then how to help develop Waze as a next logical step, side by side with current problems.

Finally at the end, giving people encouragement that Waze is at work with various projects and developments. Why your pet project hasn't been implemented because there are bigger, more urgent developments being worked on. And then more technical stuff.

So you can get to everything from the front page. Working down from beginner to ultra advanced.

Yes we could lose the table, but I want to be able to see Getting Started, and my country at first glance. And there's plenty of space that can be used.

My opinions. And jolly good ones. Your mileage will vary. :-) --Waynemcdougall 09:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)




I agree with you concerning the contextual changes although in the language sections you are still confronted with a lot of english because the links are only copied over.

I do not agree with the layout changes. We already learned how a wiki page is organized and how the layout works. There are a lot of wikis on the web and they all are, more or less, looking the same. So we get used to it.

On the main page the complete english information should be available (maybe within sections and subpages) and then there should be links to language pages where the specific or translated information could be found. So moving language specific links to a dedicated subpage would make it more easy to keep track of and you can see what already had been translated.

Some suggestions from the w3c on the use of tables for markup languages (here HTML).

And some guidance from mediawiki concerning tables.

Maybe major changes to the wiki should be discussed first befor valuable work is invested.


IMHO -- morlano 14:03, 18 September 2010 (CET)